the day I spend money on Disney will be the day Louboutins are on clearance at Target PDF Print E-mail
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Monday, 15 February 2010 00:00

I have a million blog posts floating around my head, on any given day.  Topics I want to discuss but not motivated to elaborate on until life happens and scratches that tiny thought bubble so much it itches.

 

I have this one post already published in my head, "Seriously. I need a vacation away from my kids."  It itches so bad I need to find a good dandruff shampoo.  And another title I'm struggling with is "Dear God. It's Me. OHmommy. It's been 10 years since the husband and I vacationed together."  After spending some time alone on Facebook I wrote another post in my head titled, "I wish there was a dislike button I can hit each time one of my friends uploads a photo from Vegas with her husband."

 

Happy marriage equals happy family.  I get it, really I do, and hope that my husband gets the subtle hint before our 10th wedding anniversary this August.

 

The truth is.  We like to vacation with our kids. They met Marta in Mexico which opened their eyes to poverty.  They met French ambulance drivers that gave us a behind the scene tour of the Eiffel tower.  They admitted that the White House would be so much cuter as the Pink House.  They walked through a castle built in 1274.  And created smiles on the beaches of North Carolina.  This alone in the last three years.  Lucky kids.

 

As much as I crave, desire, need, want, expect, hope, dream of a vacation alone with my husband the reality is that we are a family on a budget (shut the front door - it's much cheaper to go to Paris/Mexico/White House/North Carolina/Poland with kids than to Disney with all the frills - to each it's own - we know we are lucky to even vacation).  Which brings me to say that the day I spend money on Disney will be the day Louboutins are on clearance at Target and the world will be treated of dry scalps.  Because the globe is our playground and we have so much to see and do and learn and conquer, as a family.  Disney seems so "blah" and just a glorified amusement park forced upon us.

 

So.  We vacation with our kids, far away from Disney.

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Alternatively titled by our middle child, "THE most magical vacation on earth, ever."  I would have to agree with her, for once.

 

PS.  "Better than Paris and almost as fun as 'The Great Wolf Lodge' in Sandusky, Ohio."  GAH.  Kids!

PSS.  "This is the worst sport ever. Ever. Ever in the history of sports!"  Heard from one of my off-springs while on the chair lift for the very first time only to exclaim at the bottom of the hill (after two full days of intensive ski school) "Let's do it again. And again. Until my legs are like noodles."  Nothing better than an early addiciton to sports.

PSSS.  I fell in love with my family, all over again, this weekend.

PSSSS.  Thanks to the incredible family that hosted us in their log cabin, I forsee many wonderful memories made in your vacation abode.  You guys really know what's important in life.  Life. Laughter. Love.

PSSSSS.  Where do you purchase webcams for cheap so we can install in the friend's ski log cabin before the kids start high school?

PSSSSSS.  I've been wanting to write an Anti-Disney post forever. Bring it on, you Disney lovers and tell me why it should be on my bucket list.  I'm listening...

Last Updated on Monday, 15 February 2010 08:55
 

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# pgoodness 2010-02-15 00:43
Looks and sounds perfect to me. Adventures around the globe are way better than Disney.
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# Anna b bonkers 2010-02-15 00:48
We vacation the same, I cannot imagine not seeing their faces light up as we visit interesting and exotic places. This was something that I cherished as a child and so appreciate my parents for.
However I have been having the same feelings as you and our oldest is only 4! Ack!
And the disney thing, that should be a good one since I couldn't be bothered with the place and have never had a desire for a single disney product at that. However I have a daughter who thinks she is a princess and from the disney commercials thinks she needs to go to the castle. Hmmm.....ya.
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# Melissa Wardy 2010-02-15 00:52
Great post! My husband and I have traveled the world. Our home looks like Indiana Jones lives here. Disney has some magic to it and has earned its place in Americana. Our family lives in Costa Rica, Jordan, South Africa...a trip to Disney (or Epcot) would seem like reality tv to me.
Luckily, our eldest (4yo girl) has the desire to travel to Northern Africa to see scorpions. I think if we tried to take her to Disney to have breakfast with Cinderella, she'd look at us and say "What the hell?"

The world is our oyster...
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# Kirsten 2010-02-15 00:57
Looks like a fantastic get away. Now I'm excited for our upcoming snow trip.

I think Disney has its place. We live 350 miles away from Disneyland so lots of families around here go once a year. I think that's overkill. We have been with our kids twice and the first time was great, the second time was fun, but not as magical. We decided to make the drive every three or four years.

I probably have a different perspective since we don't have to fly to get there and can make a weekend trip out of it. I must agree though that vacations where you take advantage of the "globe as your playground" are so much more valuable to children and the family!

This July we will celebrate our 10 year wedding anniversary in London (with our children).
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# Christine 2010-02-15 01:02
I don't think you necessarily have to pick just one or the other... Disney can not compare to the African bush or the shores of the Cayman Islands, but the same can be said for the reverse. This wide world is a wonderland and Disney parks certainly have their place in it.

(By the way, I've been to Africa, Grand Cayman, Disney World, and more, and loved each place for very different reasons!)
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# Megan 2010-02-15 01:38
I agree with you - while I want to take my kids to disney b/c it's what everyone else is doing (gah!) i think that the world has SO much more to offer for a fraction of the cost of a vacation to the "mouse's house". My husband is anti-disney vacation. Me - I know how wonderful my mother felt when she could take my siblings and I and offer us that vacation (as a single mother). However, in just watching the olympics this past week - and seeing how beautiful Vancouver,BC is - how can I not want to show my kids the BEAUTY in the world? Commericalism will swallow them up soon enough (Dora? Diego? Disney? need I keep listing the reasons why I can't go in to Target with out leaving with someone in tears?!). I want nothing more for my kids than to raise them to be independent, productive, kind and amazed every day by the world around them. That may or may not include a trip to Disney (If the grandparents are paying - totally different...) The world has so much to offer - it's just figuring out how to offer it in the short amount of time we have! :)
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# Kelly C 2010-02-15 01:45
Maybe I shouldn't comment...I travelled from PA to Walt Disney World every other year growing up (on the "off year" we went on other grander vacations). And when I turned 27, and had a 3 year old, I moved to Orlando, Fl to work for the Mouse himself. I met my husband here, and my entire immediate family has moved here as well. I think Disney has it's place. It doesn't have to be one or the other. You can do Disney AND see the world. My Dad always thought going on ski trips or beach vacations was a waste of time. But he took us anyway, so that we could experience as much as possilbe. But we always returned to Disney because we had so much fun (as a family). Even as teenagers, we STILL travelled here as a family.

Everyone has their priorities, preferences and opinions, right? I mean, I think the amount of money spent on a pair of fancy shoes is ridiculous..but I wouldn't think twice about spending the same amount on a vacation. Differences is what makes the world go round.

Besides, one less person vacationing here means less people in front of me in line at It's A Small World. ;)
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# Pauline 2010-02-15 11:44
I totally agree with you that everyone has their own priorities and that's what makes the world so cool. This is just my own opinion. I think I would rather spend money going to the Grand Canyon than to Disney.

But maybe your Dad is right. He thought spending money on ski trips was a waste of time but took you anyways so you can experience it. AWESOME point Kelly. I never thought about it like that.
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# traci 2010-02-15 07:00
Look, P. Disney isn't going anywhere. But your happiness with your husband must be paramount as well. T and I get away alone every year. You have to. And we find ways to fit in family vacays as well. My kids are effing dying to hit Disney, but well, you know how I feel about that place. And since *I* know Lou's won't be found anywhere but a select few, I will be here on the 'You will go to Europe and be happy!' side of parenting. And at the end of the day, it is an amusement park. WIth rides (that make my stomach turn), with shows (helloooo, I live in Broadways backyard) and tchotchkes. Learning to ski and say 'Si'l Vous PLait' is just the way YOUR family vacation.
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# Kim 2010-02-15 07:05
I would have to agree that it doesn't have to be an either/or decision. Disney has its place.

We love to travel down the shore (we're lucky enough to have a place to go there for free - which we do often) and around different states visiting family and exploring new things. The Disney vacation we took last year was a family reunion (we all rented a house, 16 of us, off site and stayed there together)

I've lived abroad, traveled to Barcelona, Belfast, Berlin and Budapest (to name a few places where alliteration works). I whole heartily agree about traveling the world and experiencing it. Happily our daughter is a good traveler. She just turned 5 and has been to 8 states and 2 countries.

This year we'll be traveling as a family to 4 different states and we're saving $ for a trip back to China. Times are tough here economically but saving for this is a priority, so we do have to save over a long period of time...

But we did also enjoy Disney and that look of excitement our 4 yr old had when she saw live princesses all dressed up in pretty dresses wearing tiaras that hugged & talked to her was well worth the trip. And yes, it was magical for her.

So, my vote is...if you're interested in experiences, Disney can be an experience as well...don't wall yourself off from some possible wonderful ones.
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# Marinka 2010-02-15 08:02
I need to know which kid made the noodle comment because that is now my favorite OHchild.

I've never taken my kids to Disney.
and yes, an anniversary trip for the two of you is a must. To Disney.
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# Managed Chaos 2010-02-15 08:27
My husband and I experienced Disney for our first time with our kids two years ago, and while it has its place, it really was just a glorified amusement park. Fun, but not necessarily something I'm dying to go back to again. Maui on the other hand, is something I could go back to again and again. Been there twice with my husband and we are taking the kids there for spring break. Now, I just need to figure out how to arrange a trip for just the two of us. We've only done that once(with the exception of an overnight trip while the kids are with their grandparents) since the kids were born. *le sigh*
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# Pauline 2010-02-15 11:41
Le sigh, is right. I totally understand.
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# Chrissy 2010-02-15 08:38
Ouch! You seem pretty harsh about Disney ... and you haven't even been there! I grew up an hour from Disney so it wasn't a big deal to us. My parents bought season passes many years in a row so we would go to Disney every Saturday as a family ... and to the beach on Sunday. That was a normal weekend for us.

Now that I have kids, I couldn't wait to take them to Disney. We got to go this past year ... Disney had an amazing deal for military families (another reason I love them!). Our tickets were really inexpensive AND we got a great discount on our hotel room, so we were able to stay right there on Disney.
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# Chrissy 2010-02-15 08:39
(Had to cut my comment in two ... it was too long!)

On our last day there we stood in line to see the Disney princesses. Our son is refused to be photographed or go near the Princesses. My hubby explained to the guy keeping things moving that our son is on the autism spectrum and has some issues. Our daughter took pics with the Princesses and we went to leave. This guy called us back, cleared the room and ALL the Princesses came over to greet both our kids, took pictures, etc. It was AMAZING. My husband and I were both tearing up. Kids that have siblings with disabilities rarely get special things happen to them ... we have to make an effort to make things special for our daughter ... carve out time for her. Disney did that. They go over and beyond. There are almost hourly parades, a huge fireworks show EVERY SINGLE NIGHT. It's an awesome experience for your kids AND you. Other places make for great family vacations, but Disney is certainly one of them!! Don't take it off your list!! :o)
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# Pauline 2010-02-15 11:40
Definitely not off our list. Just struggling to decide if we really have to go because it's really that awesome.
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# Cathy 2010-02-21 08:49
It really is that awesome. Truly.

It's not just the place, but the people that work there and make it so magical.

Just don't go from the fall of 2010 'til 2012 - they're renovating fantasyland and that would kill the magic. =) Though, also limit the crowds, maybe?
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# Indy 2010-02-15 08:41
Don't care so much for Diseny but we're doing Disney in three years b/c we know the kids will love it. But this summer, we're going on a cruise to somewhere with a rainforest (ry's request) with my family. Next year, Myrtle Beach with Mike's family. We just take turns each year with the families.

And you can afford a cheap vacation away to Vegas with your man. If WE can afford it, YOU can afford it. You just have to make it a priority. You do. It is much cheaper than you think. We go somewhere every fall just the two of us.
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# Pauline 2010-02-15 11:37
Send me the links - Im ready to book a weekend getaway with the husband. It's been too long.
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# amy 2010-02-15 21:37
me too me too!! It has been 8 years since I have been away from Stephen and the girls. It has been 10 years since Stephen and I have been away on a vacation that doesn't include visiting family in Seattle. We did do Victoria Island in BC which I recommend to everyone..BEAUTIFUL.
But, sigh, it has been way to long since I have seen a sandy beach.
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# Marie 2010-02-15 08:48
Disney is for some people, just not my people. My husband worked for a company owned by Disney several years ago, and since we were childless at the time, we offered to take our niece and nephew. Even with the magical "silver pass" (which let us cut lines and get a discount) it was still god-awful expensive. It was crowded and I kept worrying we were going to lose one of the kids. And, to my husband's great dismay, they don't serve beer in any of the restaurants in the Magic Kingdom. No magic for him! Anyway, I think there are things about it that are great, but if I'm going to spend that much money on a vacation, I'd much rather be sticking my feet in the sand of some fabulous beach in Mexico or the Caribbean or exploring a new place. I guess to each his own - Chrissy's post did soften me up a little.
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# Marie 2010-02-15 08:48
Disney is for some people, just not my people. My husband worked for a company owned by Disney several years ago, and since we were childless at the time, we offered to take our niece and nephew. Even with the magical "silver pass" (which let us cut lines and get a discount) it was still god-awful expensive. It was crowded and I kept worrying we were going to lose one of the kids. And, to my husband's great dismay, they don't serve beer in any of the restaurants in the Magic Kingdom. No magic for him! Anyway, I think there are things about it that are great, but if I'm going to spend that much money on a vacation, I'd much rather be sticking my feet in the sand of some fabulous beach in Mexico or the Caribbean or exploring a new place. I guess to each his own - Chrissy's post did soften me up a little.
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# Marie 2010-02-15 08:49
Whoops sorry for the double posting.
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# Annie @ PhD in Paren 2010-02-15 09:04
Guess you're not part of the Disney social media moms then? :)

We might go for a day as part of a larger trip to Paris this summer, but I don't see us planning an entirely Disney vacation anytime.
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# kakaty 2010-02-15 09:08
I'm with you - if I never do Disney (again) it will be too soon. It's overpriced, crowded and boring.

We went as part as an exteneded family vacation in August(!) of 2007 when M was 2 months old. My parents booked the trip to celebrate their 40th anniversary and chose the location based on the ages of the older grandkids. We paid for Disney tix and it was insane! One day in the park (which was forced because my parents booked the princess breakfast - GAH! and a family photo shoot) cost more then a plane ticket.

The whole Orlando area bummed me out: all crazy-touristy and fake. I'd much rather go to a National Park, a beach or just about anywhere else.
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# kakaty 2010-02-15 09:13
oops - she was 10 months old..not 2
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# deb williams 2010-02-15 09:20
as i said in my tweet, disney won't happen for my kids, unless they choose to go as adults. they have never expressed interest. you are so right that for the same price, you can go far and see much. we love vacationing with our kids and always have. it's sad to think we only have 2 summers left before our oldest is out of the house. there's plenty of time for us to travel as a couple when they are gone. enjoy family time now! it goes by so fast.

ps: skiing is our fave. whistler is surprisingly inexpensive, especially late in the season, and the mountains are HUGE!
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# Hockeymandad 2010-02-15 09:32
I don't understand how you can poo poo something so much that you've never seen or done. Yes, Disney can be expensive but with a little research and good planning/timing it won't be. I bet skiing and all that goes with it is no different. However, I won't poo on the idea because it's something I've never done and always wanted to do. Most people that complain about experiences at Disney are generally always because of WHEN they go. If it was such a horrible place, they wouldn't exist and people who live nearby certainly wouldn't continue to go.I get it's not for everybody, some people cannot look past the mega-corporation aspect of it, but it got that way for a reason.
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# Pauline 2010-02-15 09:36
I didn't poo poo on it besides calling it a glorified amusement park and admitted that we love to travel and asked Disney fanatics to explain why I should put it on our list.
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# allison 2010-02-15 09:42
Your vacation looked like a blast. I've only been on skis once and would love to officially learn.
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# Daniella 2010-02-15 09:44
We are not a Disney family.... did it once and it was my son who by 2 o'clock couldn't wait to leave and go back to the hotel to explore. We are boaters and our vacations are never the same - even if we go to the same island or destination. The trip there is always an adventure on the water and we explore and see different things every time. From our trips across our state, to the bahamas or to the island 45 min from our canal, it's always an adventure and that's what we love. But.... we have many friends that all they do for their vacations is Disney, each and every single time. In addition to our boating we always add a trip somewhere via plane or car as well. Back to NYC (ourhometown) this summer and that for sure will be an adventure...Your ski trip sounds amazing by the way :)
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# PJ Mullen 2010-02-15 09:47
This was brilliant. We did the obligatory trip to Disney when I was like 6 or 7, and I've been back as a senior in High School, to the 'adult' side of Disney as part of a fraternity trip and to Epcot as a joke during part of my bachelor party (we went to have a drink in every country). I'm not excited about going to take my son (and soon to be baby #2). I hate crowds and despite paying a huge premium on things so the mouse can get his.

This summer friends of ours all want to get together and do a group vacation and one couple suggested Disney. The rest of it put the kibosh on it and instead proposing renting a house down at the beach so we could all be together, cook meals ourselves and enjoy each others company rather than trying to fit everything in and see it all.

I'll probably have to do the Disney trip once because I'll probably lose that argument with my wife, but I'll delay it for as long as possible.
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# Annie 2010-02-15 09:58
We live 30 mins from Disney World and it's the only reason we visit -and we rarely go.

We enjoy it but I can't ever imagine, even living this close, it ever being more than a once in a blue moon kind of thing.

We are Irish, and both our families live in Ireland. So, guess where we go on vacation? ;)

This is just one of those individual differences things. Some people love to soak up foreign cultures, others prefer the thrill rides and experiences parks have to offer.
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# Chrissy 2010-02-15 10:25
Something else I wanted to mention - the best part of Disney for us? KNOWING that no matter where we were going, where we went to eat, what show we were sitting down to watch, it was going to be appropriate and fun for our kids. We did the 10 day vacation in Italy - which was great - but we all had more fun at Disney. Our son had his inevitable meltdowns but it was fine ... it was a kid-friendly place! Other kids were having meltdowns too. We never felt that people were irritated by his occasional strange behavior.

Going with toddlers is hard. I think Disney is best for pre-school age kids and up. Staying right on Disney is great b/c you can easily go back to your room and take naps during the hottest part of the day, play at the pool and go back to the park for dinner, more rides and the fireworks (being on Dumbo when the fireworks started was the highlight for all of us - it was like they were going off ALL around us ... soooo cool).

Anyway, just don't discount it completely. You can get the packages to save serious money. And we set rules - our kids could pick out one toy and one shirt that we would buy the last day there. That way, it wasn't just a place to buy a bunch of plastic stuff (b/c that stuff is all around!)
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# Pauline 2010-02-15 11:34
Spring break is around the corner and we are entertaining the idea of going. I just have so many other things I would rather do with the kids. Like the Grand Canyon, for example, is another idea I have.
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# Martha 2010-02-15 11:01
Disney is not for everyone, but I would not write it off as just a giant amusement park. It really is so much more. Having lived less than one hour away for 6 years (while DD was 6-12) we spent many many days there, I had never been in my life prior to a quick vacation three months prior to moving to Orlando, and there was a point were I "didn't get it" Will we go back on a vacation? Most likely not for MANY years (if you ask my daughter she will say NEVER), there is so much more too see in this world. I have to admit, I don't understand the people that go back year after year, excluding all other destinations. Right now, I can't afford vacations anywhere, so we will explore all the history an culture that the we can find between NYC and Wash DC! That should take some time!
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# ali 2010-02-15 11:16
While Disney certainly wouldn't be my first choice, or even tenth, for a vacation, it IS a great place for kids. There's a lot to do, and it's all kid friendly and appropriate and, honestly, we are going in May for a week and are staying at a gorgeous hotel and got a GREAT deal...really not horribly expensive (and not any more expensive than the other places we were looking - islands and beaches places). and I cannot tell you how excited my children are about it. all three.

but honestly, I'd LOVE to hear about your trips that weren't expensive. I would love to travel more with my kids to give them the experience...I am just always so amazed by how much it costs.
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# Pauline 2010-02-15 11:31
I priced a Disney vacay for a family of 5 and it was far more expensive than every vacation we have taken (minus Europe) to date.

I know my kids would love it. But the thought of paying $$$$ to eat breakfast with a princess with mediocre food is killing me.
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# Mandi Bone 2010-02-15 12:09
We just got back a few weeks ago. We had 3 adults and 2 childern. We got everything including food for under $1400.If you work it can be done cheap.
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# Heather from DE 2010-02-15 11:27
I thought you were going to Disney? Didn't I see a tweet of some sorts about a passport?

Glad you guys had an excellent time.
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# Pauline 2010-02-15 11:28
We are trying to decide if we should do the Disney thing or not for Spring break. My MIL found Disney passports from 1984 and still have days left on them.

I'm just not convinced and would rather spend my money elsewhere.
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# Michelle 2010-02-15 11:31
Yeah, I wouldn't poo poo it either. Perhaps through the eyes of an adult, it's a glorified amusement park, but through the eyes of children, it's pure magic. It's expensive, but with a little planning, you can alleviate a lot of that cost. It can be crowded, but refer back to the planning. You have to pick your time wisely. I would also say that there's a window of opportunity where a trip to Disney really gives you a bang for your buck. You have to go when the kids are fairly young. Although I still LOVE going as an adult. We're also taking a Disney cruise this summer as our last truly "kid-centered" vacation. Plenty of time for us to take them to faraway places (London and Paris are at the top of my list), but they are only this age once and Disney has that magic for a short time. I say add it to your list. Sometimes people poo poo things because "everyone else is doing them". Well, there's a reason everyone else goes. It's FUN. :)
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# Jayme 2010-02-15 11:38
I agree with doing something else other than going to Disney. The hubs and I have been trying to figure out how we could afford Disney, but maybe now we will just go someplace else to have a family vacation. Disney is ok and all but I never went until I was in high school. It is hard though when my SIL takes her family there almost every year and then my kids wonder why we can't go.
Hopefully soon we will be able to take them but I just can't guarantee it!
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# chrissy 2010-02-15 11:48
I couldn't agree with you more. In fact - my parents are so anti-disney that this concept has been ingrained in me for over 30 years. Beyond how blah the parks are - and how over priced they are...don't get anyone from my family started on how they treat employees (specificially employees in countries with a lower minimum wage). Walt Disney would throw up if he saw what the suits have done to his company.
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# pgoodness 2010-02-15 11:54
Quoting pgoodness:
Looks and sounds perfect to me. Adventures around the globe are way better than Disney.


Just wanted to clarify...I love the magic of Disney and will be taking my kids there, hopefully next year. BUT, I think that the camping trips I went on as a kid were just as, if not more, memorable. I think there is room for both in your life. I also think that unless you live nearby, it's really only a one time thing for most people. So not so different from going someplace else just once.

Does that make sense at all?? :)
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# Pauline 2010-02-15 11:57
Yes, it does.

We only have room for one awesome family trip per year and the kids are getting older and there are so many things we want to see and do (like camping!) and I just don't know if we should squeeze Disney in or just move onto our next adventure. That's my issue.
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# The Divas Thoughts 2010-02-15 12:01
I LOVE those pictues. It really makes me want to go skiing and I HATE skiing and snow.
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# Elizabeth 2010-02-15 12:03
We live an hour from Disneyland. It is not the happiest place on earth but it does have its place. I can't say that driving an hour a way for the day qualifies as a vacation. However, I am glad that my kids have been there. To small children, it really does hold magic. My children have also been all over the country and had really terrific experiences right here in LA (I'm thinking of the theatre, which ends up at about the same price). But, Disney once or twice is magical to small children. It's also neat to see the park through their small, innocent eyes.
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# Chrissy 2010-02-15 13:05
Pauline, I will say that the food at Disney has improved sooo much over the years. When I was growing up, it was almost insulting to pay $5 for a burger/fries/drink b/c they tasted horrible! We had great meals this past year at every place we stopped to eat. And the one character breakfast we went to was in our hotel (the Polynesian) and it featured Lilo and Stitch (my kids' favorite), Mickey, Pluto ... and maybe one more character. Our breakfast tasted awesome and wasn't any more expensive than a dinner out at a moderate priced place. We didn't even have reservations ... they were able to fit us in (I didn't realize you could book those things beforehand).

You could always try a Disney cruise. My brother and his family go just about every year now. They LOVE them. You get to see some great tropical locations and still have kid-friendly entertainment, food, all the characters, etc. Of course, they also still live in the area so they have year-round passes to Disney and they go all the time to the real thing. Lucky!

If you are thinking about Disney, my advice? Go with the cheapest Garden view room you can get. Our "cheap" room at the Polynesian was beautiful! And big! And it's not like we wanted to hang out there much anyway.
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# kakaty 2010-02-15 13:26
I will say, that although I have no intention of EVER going back to Disney World (I went at age 10, 13 and 16 - with my HS marching band and just 2 years ago as an adult) I would consider a Disney Cruise. If your kids were begging for Disney it seems like the best of both worlds (i.e. kids club programs so you and DrOHmommy can have some alone time).
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# Pauline 2010-02-16 08:22
A disney cruise? I am so off to research that now. It might work our for us!
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# katie 2010-02-15 13:12
My husband and I are already discussing Disney and we don't even have kids yet. I don't want to take our kids and he does. He thinks it's one place you HAVE to take them. I disagree. I've been there several times and don't know if I'll be able to justify spending that kind of money when my children are so small. My trips to Disney were fun - but I have far more memorable moments from my childhood that took place on other family vacations.
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# SoccerMom 2010-02-15 13:26
Honestly, I have taken my kids to Disney Land and Disney World. Both are so totally over rated and not worth the money. I have learned with my kids that the most expensive place/vacation doesn't necessarily make the best memories.
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# Elizabeth 2010-02-15 13:37
Me again. I just read through some of your comments. May I suggest flying to the Grand Canyon, which is awesome and breathtaking and then adding on a day or two at Disneyland. It's about an hour flight. One day is all you and your children need at Disneyland. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. You'd be coming out to the west coast anyway. May as well do it all. You can fly home out of Southern California.
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# Pauline 2010-02-16 08:23
They are really that close together, that you can drive in one day? I have to pull up a map and see it for myself. Great idea.
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# Renny 2010-02-15 13:46
Aw sad. What about the Disney give a day get a day program this year? First you give a day of service with your family, then you get a free day at Disneyland?
Disney has a special place in my heart because I think that Walt Disney was one of the greatest people that ever lived. He had a good heart, and wanted to bring good into the world, and I just think the parks still stand for that. I haven't been to Disneyland since I was 12, but my family is doing the give a day get a day program this year. Its nice because even though the rest of my family is across the country, its a way we can come together to do something special.
I do still want to travel the world though. I just don't think you have to be anti Disney to do it :)
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# janet 2010-02-15 13:52
I don't see anything wrong with taking your kids to Disney, even if it's a one time deal. Hey, even people from other countries vacation in Disney. It's for kids and they love it. The look on your kids face will be priceless!! And I'm glad they enjoyed skiing. As a kid, I would go all the time, even before I made it to Disney at the age of 13. So, just add it to your list of travels. I don't think you'll regret it. We haven't, and we've done a bit of traveling ourselves.
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# McMommy 2010-02-15 14:15
Awwww....don't be hatin' on Disney!!! Disney loves you! Florida loves the OHfamily! Everyone sing with me now..."Alllll we are sayyyyyyyyyying....is give DISNEY a channnnnce!!" :)
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# Marlo 2010-02-15 14:40
As you know, we've been to Disney a lot with our kids. I never thought we were Disney people at all. But there is something so magical about that place!!! That being said, there's no way I would go at spring break on this short notice. You can do Disney quite affordably if you plan in advance. My worry is that you'll hate it because it will be supercrowded and you won't be as to get any decent reservations. We pull the kids out of school in October and go when it isn't so crazy crowded. Disney without a solid plan sucks but it can be a really fun family trip with advance planning.
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# Kate 2010-02-15 15:12
I certainly see where you are coming from. My husband and I have friends who go to Disneyland all the time- multiple times a year, or spent many family vacations there and I just don't identify with that at all. I loved all the different places I traveled as a kid and have loved living all over the place as an adult. I wish the same for our future family. That being said, I went to Disneyland once when I was 7. I remember getting mickey mouse pancakes and being speechless, I remember being in awe of the rides, I remember it being a magical two days. I am sure it's harder to make a trip when you aren't near one of the parks(we lived in Northern CA so LA isn't very far)but I would saying going once with kids that are the right age might be worth the trip.
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# Angie - AWLN 2010-02-15 15:15
You can afford ski/Mexico/European vacations, I can afford days at Disney.

My girls won't get to go on a "real" vacation, so we supplement with the "fakeness" of Disney. They love it, we love it.

To each, her own.
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# Pauline 2010-02-15 16:26
You can afford Disney, because you can drive. I can afford skiing, because I can drive.

The price of a lift-ticket for one day is much cheaper than the price of a Disney Park.

I wasn't so much bashing Disney, but more so weighing my options. If I have to spend over $1000 on a vacation.... is Disney worth all the buzz? Because you and I both know, I would rather do something else.
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# Laura 2010-02-15 15:49
Well, as a child of immigrants my parents took me to DisneyWorld in the late 70's and we all still have very fond memories.. However, my parents also took us skiing in Utah and Vermont. We vacationed to Grand Cayman before everyone else knew about it. I've been to their homelands of Scotland and England. Every single family vacation carries with it different experiences and memories. Disney to me as a 5 year old was magical, and when I took my girls last year it was magical to them. Yeah, the food is crap, but it is FUN and memory making, that was enough for me. I've discovered that life is about sacrifices, yeah Disney is not MY idea of a dream vacation but it was for my girls so we spoiled them a bit!

As for the Grand Canyon, I'd save that trip for when all of your kids can appreciate the wonder and splendor that type of vacation can offer.

And as for a couples only vacation, that is great you might have the opportunity to get away sans kids. I'd go somewhere tropical!

That's all I have to say...was that enough LOL.
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# Laura 2010-02-15 15:51
PS...Let me know when you book up so I can hit the sales at Tar-jay!!!!!!!!
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# Pauline 2010-02-16 08:24
LOL.
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# Jaina 2010-02-15 16:44
To each their own, I suppose is how it goes. I personally love Disney, I have a pass to Disneyland. I went to Epcot once on a high school band trip. I love to just relax and BE at Disneyland, it's like I'm a kid. That said, I know that Disney isn't for everyone. I would love to have taken the trips you have shared with us, these are places I want to go. But I still enjoy a good day or even afternoon at Disneyland.
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# Patty Ann 2010-02-15 17:43
I'm 27 years old and have never visited Disney. I've hit up some of the most fabulous cities and have a kick ass shoe collection. Siting in my living room watching the 'Visit Florida' commercial makes me want to ride a Tilt A Whirl with mouse ears on my head so bad I can taste the overpriced mediocre food. But I also think the way you do and if I dare go now all I will do is think "gah, they want HOW much for that???"

If at all, take your kids while they're young enough to still think like kids and can see the magic and not the dollar signs.
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# MommyTime 2010-02-15 20:13
I am not a Disney-ite, only because I would rather do outdoor hikes, waterfall swims, and new foods in foreign countries. But, like you, I have to fly and stay in expensive hotels to do Disney, and for the same $$, I can go to St John and snorkel in a national park. I prefer the latter.

(contd in next comment because even though it says I have symbols left, it won't let me post this comment; sorry)
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# Pauline 2010-02-16 08:26
THAT is my exact issue.

If I am spending SO much money on a vacation I would much rather do something outdoors, hands-on, in nature. Which better fits our family anyways.
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# MommyTime 2010-02-15 20:13
I will say, though, that my husband had a work conference on the Disney property (so we had a hotel for 4 days courtesy of his work), and we found very cheap flights, and so we went. We spent 3 of our days in the gorgeous hotel pools, walking on the (free) Disney boardwalk, going to the Lego sculpture area, and bumming around in the sand. We spent 1 day in the park. Daughter was a baby, and son was 3 1/2. He was old enough for some rides. We grown ups, despite our $80 tickets, rode almost nothing we would have chosen because our kids were too little. IMHO, there is a small window of perfect age for Disney: 6-9 years old. At that age, kids are big enough to ride a LOT of the rides, little enough to be fascinated with the magic, and I imagine everyone will have a great time. Much younger, and one adult has to sit on the sidelines and babysit while the other takes the older kid on a ride; much older, and I would imagine complaints of "this is for babies" might come up. There are some rides for the littles -- Dumbo, etc., but the olders may find them boring. Son had a GREAT time & we had a great time watching him have so much fun. But for the money, I would likely choose other trips instead.
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# Liz 2010-02-16 08:48
I will give them that, Disney *does* do hotels really well. I went on a family vacation there when I was 11 or so - my 6 yr old sister LOVED everything, but I wasn't into it (I totally agree with the above that there is a very small age window where Disney is a good time). The one part I do remember fondly, though, was the hotel. It was one of the lower-end ones and was still such a neat place to explore.

That said, I was just in Orlando with the b/f to try to watch the last shuttle launch. Stayed in Orlando because it was much cheaper than staying on the coast, and I almost lost it just driving around there. So touristy, it made me feel claustrophobic - think Niagara Falls times 100. Maybe 1000.

I made him swear that if we ever have children and they will JUST DIE if they don't go, we will send them and Grandma and Grandpa. As much as I'd hate to spend that much money on a vacation I wouldn't go on, I'd rather do that than be stressed out for the week.
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# jo 2010-02-15 20:44
We just bought our first year round set of family passports to disney. We went today. I would discourage you from traveling to so cal, or florida, JUST for disney. Lots of grumpy tourists trying to take it all in at once, pushing through crowds. For us, it is easy. We went for four hours, did a few things, took our time, watched a parade, watched our firstborn son who is addicted to the movie CARS run his fingers along a life-sized Lightning McQueen....It's about balance and what works for your family. We travel as a family too...Poland, Germany, Czech Republic, NY, Arizona, Las Vegas, Mountains, beaches, you name it. We. Are. So. Lucky. I think the trick is to give them life experiences. My dad drove a crappy car most of our lives but he sent us to Europe almost every summer. The experiences mattered more than the Things did. Sounds like you've got it all figured out for now. But then again, you're a Polish immigrant too, arent you?
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# jo 2010-02-15 20:51
Dude. If you go, are you going to Florida or SoCal? Because you can HANG OUT WITH US and that would TOTALLY make your trip out here worth it. And I could make you breakfast, it would be free, and I would wear a tiara and a tutu if you'd like. Just sayin.
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# Pauline 2010-02-16 08:28
I love that you know me so well Jo (after 27 years of friendship) that you need to include the word FREE in describing your breakfast.

Ha. Im sold!
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# Tired Mom Tesa 2010-02-15 20:56
I'm right there with you on this one. I've never been a big fan of the Disney vacation - although the warm weather is so attractive right now.

So glad to hear you all had a wonderful weekend. It looks and sounds like it was a blast with many great memories.
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# Flea 2010-02-15 21:00
Oh girl. We lived in Orlando for eleven years. I get the magic of Disney - I really do - but I don't ever want to vacay there. Ever. Give me mountains and deserts and friends' homes any day.
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# Loukia 2010-02-15 22:29
I know my boys would have a better time in Greece. That experience will be amazing... And u can't wait tontsje them for the first time when D is a bit older. For now, we travel on plane rides no longer than 3 hours. We've taken them to Flirida twice, Fort Lauderdale/Hollywood/Miami, Bahamas (Atlantis) and D.C., Montreal, Toronto... Each trip is amazing and fun and memorable. What am I saying? No matter where you go, you will have fun because you'll be together as a family. And you have a lifetime of vacations ahead of you! I went to Disbey when I was 12. I loved it and remembr it well.
P.S. Stay at the Hyatt if you can!! ;)
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# Loukia 2010-02-15 22:31
Sorry for typos. Typing on iPhone in bed.
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# Keyona 2010-02-15 22:33
Looked like a blast! I can't wait to take Lael skiing and learn myself as well. First I need to get unbroke.....
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# JulieBouf 2010-02-15 22:52
Personally, I LOVE vacations to Disneyworld. I've studied abroad, been to Europe three separate times and hope to many more times. I would love to share that experience with my kids when their older. I also LOVE cruises. Disney vacations fit perfectly for the personalities of my family right now. My 4yo lives for rides. We like to be entertained.

Our favorite trip was staying at my mom's timeshare very close to the park. It's SO nice to have the extra space without having to pay Disney prices for it. Anyone can get rooms there, too. I would suggest that Spring Break may not be the best time to visit if you're already on the fence. To optimize your experience, slightly slower times would be beneficial. We LOVED going the week after Thanksgiving.

Obviously every parent has different views on kids missing school. But I think it's worth it for family memories and optimizing the experience.
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# Elaine 2010-02-15 23:42
I just think kids have fun at Disney and make amazing memories (I know I did.) And I do want mine to experience it someday but it's not like do or die, you know? But I also think that if you NEVER take your kids there it's not a big deal because you take them SO many other awesome places. And besides, the trips around the ACTUAL world are mucho better than one trip to the "pretend" world in Epcot!!
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# Kate Coveny Hood 2010-02-15 23:53
Great Wolf Lodge! Hilarious. I've never been to Disney World (or Great Wolf Lodge for that matter), but I did go to Disney Land when I was nine. The ONLY reason that I would go now would be for the kids (and I know people who vacationed there as couples pre-kids! weird.)
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# Zoeyjane 2010-02-16 03:33
Just... yes.
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# Texan Mama 2010-02-16 09:06
I am so with you. What's magical about spending $28 for a Mickey Mouse t-shirt that you can also get from the Disney store at the mall? Or, shaking paws with Pluto? That furry costume has B.O. by the way. And waiting in line an hour to ride a ride? Uh, no thanks. I can do all those things at Six Flags which is 25 minutes from my house and I can get in for 10 months of the year for just a $50 season pass.

I think the scam is in getting kids to believe that magic lies in cartoon characters. I am trying to teach my kids that the REAL magic lies within themselves, setting goals and reaching them, and if you have to believe in something, have it be yourself, not a cartoon mouse.
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# J 2010-02-16 10:50
oh i should add, since you have 2 girls. if you do go to disney, take them to the bippity bop boutique for a makeover. they'll love it since i know they're just as prissy as my girl. they do their hair and makeup with glitter and sparkles. you can do it at magic kingdom at the princess castle or downtown disney at the disney store which is where we had it done and it wasn't crowded. but you must make an appt before going.
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# mrs.mayhem 2010-02-16 10:57
We've taken our kids to Disney and on foreign vacations. The vacations our children (ages 5,7,10,12) reminisce about are the vacations where we explored new places. Disney has excellent marketing skills. In my opinion, Disney has managed to convince people that a trip to their "magical" theme park is necessary in order for kids to have a complete childhood. Our family won't be returning to any more commercial theme parks. We're thinking Germany this summer...
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# Krystyn 2010-02-16 12:07
I've been twice, too. Once when little and once in high school. It's not my cup of tea, either...then again, we haven't vacationed anywhere in a while with our kiddos (that dang budget and paying off our debt).

Having said that, my mom really wants to take my kids, so I'm sure it will happen, but I would much rather then tour the world, heck even the US.

But, then again, you've gotta do it once, right, just to experience it?
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# Monda 2010-02-16 14:09
I think we will probably take our kids to Disney at least once since it is such an integral part of the American culture but we would rather let them explore other parts of the world and learn about different cultures, people and foods. I went to Disney when I was in HS and it was neat but not nearly as memorable as exploring the Parthenon in Athens or the Piazza San Marco in Venice with my husband. I can't wait to take our children to Venice to the church where we were married :)
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# 3 Peanuts 2010-02-16 14:30
We try to make great family memories and that can be done LOTS of places. I have never been a huge Disney fan. However, we took the boys to Disney a few years ago and although they have been many places (and my husband did NOT want to go anywhere near Disney), it truly was the most magical vacations we have taken. We will never be one of those families that goes every year. But there is something special about Disney. I have never heard anyone have a bad time there. And really to see the looks on the kids faces is what makes it magical for adults. Kate wants to go "see the castle and meet Cinderella" so this Fall we will head to Disney to see the magic through her eyes. I know that she will only love princesses for a few years but she will love Paris forever (like her Mommy):)

Oh and one more thing...I went to Disney with my family in 3rd grade and thought it was the most magical place on earth.. Truly it was my favorite childhood vacation. Then, I went in college and it was just okay. When I went as a MOm-- it was magical. So, it does depend on perspective.
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# 3 Peanuts 2010-02-16 14:39
I must add that I agree with the others about NOT going during Spring Break. IT will be SO SO SO crowded at miserable!!!! We pulled the kids out of school and went the last week in September (got a deal with ALL of your meals FREE!) We had NO lines and no waits. It was perfect. We will do that again!
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# sharongilo 2010-02-16 15:22
Love this post --- Disney is definitely not for everyone, although so much of the world could not imagine our perspective!

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# clarkinfestedwaters 2010-02-16 16:34
We haven't done Disney yet, so I'll hold that comment. As for skiing, I can't wait to take the kids. It is so worth the blisters and bad hair. Although, I am convinced that you, my dear, can look good in anything. You even rock fashion on the slopes. You go!

PS. Love the ski wedges. Too cute!
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# HouseOfEstrogen 2010-02-16 19:46
My family took great vacations when I was a kid - New Mexico, Grand Tetons, cruise to Alaska, D.C., San Diego, a whole mix of places. I loved all of them and have very fond memories of all our vacations. That said, I always felt a little deprived growing up that they never took me to Disney World.
When I became an adult, I really didn't have any desire to go to Disney at that point, and my husband didn't either. We envisioned many of the things people have mentioned - crowds, heat, amusement park rides... it just held no appeal. We went anyway though.. decided it was something we wanted to do for the kids. Guess what? We all had a GREAT time! Sure, it was a very different type of trip from other trips we've taken to NC beaches, New Mexico, NYC, etc., but we truly had a lot of fun. It surprised us. We had planned well - off season, low crowds, etc. Anyway, all that is to say, if you ever decide to try a Disney trip, it might surprise you! You might end up feeling a little "Disney Magic" whether you want to or not!!
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# Tressa 2010-02-16 20:28
Disney is magical. I have been to Disney World three times. Once as a child, once for work, and the best time was when I surprised my son with the trip for his birthday. Each time was a totally different expirence. IMHO it is totally worth seeing the magic in your child's eyes and playing along side of them. We stayed in the most economical hotel on Disney grounds and the hotel was a Toy Story theme. It was fantastic!

Tressa
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# Michelle 2010-02-16 21:43
Quoting Texan Mama:
I am so with you. What's magical about spending $28 for a Mickey Mouse t-shirt that you can also get from the Disney store at the mall? Or, shaking paws with Pluto? That furry costume has B.O. by the way. And waiting in line an hour to ride a ride? Uh, no thanks. I can do all those things at Six Flags which is 25 minutes from my house and I can get in for 10 months of the year for just a $50 season pass.

I think the scam is in getting kids to believe that magic lies in cartoon characters. I am trying to teach my kids that the REAL magic lies within themselves, setting goals and reaching them, and if you have to believe in something, have it be yourself, not a cartoon mouse.


Really??? Is there harm in letting kids believe in the magic of a fairy tale or the enchantment of shaking hands with a princess? Teaching kids to believe in themselves and allowing them to see the magic in Disney are NOT mutually exclusive, IMHO.
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# Irene 2010-02-16 23:13
Yeah, I am with you. I know my kids would love Disney, but I really just am not that excited to go.

I prefer natural wonders, history or something a bit educational. I would LOVE to travel the world with my kids -maybe someday!!!

I do love Disney movies and my girls have ADORED the princesses for years, but not sure I want to spend a week surrounded by it. Just seems so incredibly commercial. And I hate crowds, cement, lots of noise and music - reminds me of a child's version of Vegas (which I absolutely abhorred). Nothing wrong with it, but just not for me!

The jury is still out whether we will eventually make the trek.
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# jill 2010-02-17 00:10
I too would LOVE a vacation sans kids. Heck, we NEED a vacation without them. But alas, we're of the family vacation kind ourselves. And secretly, we love it. I love experiencing new places through my kids eyes. I love doing things with them that other kids just read about in magazines.

My kids have never been to Disneyland, but they've been to see the Pyramids, Petra, the Taj Mahal. They don't know what it is to know what they're missing. For now.

I say give your kids an experience to remember... whatever that experience may be. My most memorable vacation was renting a motorhome and driving across the country - stopping at every single "monument" on the way from Yellowstone to Mt. Rushmore to the Hoover Dam and everything in between.

P.S. Love that you took your kids skiing. It's something I dream about doing with my kids.

P.S.S. Check out the Kinderhotels in Europe. They have hotels geared solely towards families - and they have all inclusive packages that include meals, kids clubs / daycare, outdoor activities, and the like. They're AMAZING!!
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# Kelly 2010-02-17 00:16
I haven't been to Disney in years. I had a blast the last time I went and I generally lean towards adventurous vacations. If you do decide to go, I've heard good things about www.mousesavers.com.
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# dina kay 2010-02-17 16:24
I'd love to write a Disney post, but alas I complete argee with you. Never have had the desire to go when there is still so much else to see. Love your blog.
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# Michelle 2010-02-17 19:18
Only analogy I can think of at the moment is McDonald's. I know parents who take their kids there regularly. I HATE McDonald's. Despise it. BUT...my kids have had it. If it's the only place they ever got to enjoy outside of my fabulous home cooking (ha ha!), that might be an issue. But we do take them other places that serve all sorts of cuisine so that they may try new flavors and find what suits them and what they personally favor. Still, a trip to McD's is always met with cheers and excitement. And once in a while, nothing wrong with that. I sort of see this vacation issue in the same vein. If Disneyland is the only place kids get to experience on a vacation, they might be missing out. There are a lot of wonderful places to see and experience (and you need not always travel far to see them). But if you take them there once and they enjoy it (even if you don't), isn't that part of being a parent? The privilege of exposing and sharing the world and all that it offers to your kids? We've been to D-land (it's easy when you live an hour away). We've also been to Disney on Ice (again, when the show travels to your city, it's easy). And this summer, we're taking the kids on a Disney cruise. As my son gets older, I realize he won't be as into the Disney thing much longer. And my daughter too. Window of opportunity to really let them live it up and enjoy what THEY are into right now. Just my latest musings on the topic...
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# Issa 2010-02-17 21:49
I do love Disney and I someday want to take my kids to Disney World. However...I've taken them on two weeks trips, that cost less than spending two nights and days at Disneyland. I can't imagine how pricey Disney World with three kids would be.

This summer we're going to Taos, NM with my parents and god only knows how many other crazy relatives. A week in a house a friend owns. No big plans. No frills. Just a week with family. Is my kind of vacation.

(Although, I do love churros. Ha)
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# Issa 2010-02-17 21:51
ps. Poland is HIGH on my list. Can't wait. The only thing is, the thought of a 12 hour flight with a 17 month old makes me want to run and hide in a closet. Ha. But I'll take them one day.
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# Kirstin 2010-02-18 13:34
My parents took us to Disney once as a child. All we did was wait in line (BORING) and because of that I have very little desire to take my own children. I have had lots of opportunities to travel to Europe, Central America and throughout the U.S.. I want to share those places with my boys. Your ski trip looks like so much fun and I can't wait till my boys are old enough...The ski resort looks sooo much like Holiday Valley, which is where we ski!!!! Is it??
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